Curse

generik · Dec 30, 2005, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Well, let's just say there are rumours, but the reason why I'm posting today is I find it quite disturbing if chapter 2 is indeed going to take such a direction, so I'll just put out a feeler to see what everyone else thinks.

It is said that in chapter 2...

1) Your character will be moved to the new world in a way akin to presear and postsear, which means once you've done that you will never be able to return to chapter 1 again.

2) The next maximum character level is 40.

3) Max damage weapons in chapter 1 will not be max damage in chapter 2.

4) All those 1337 people who bought FoW armor will be walking around like fools when chapter 2 comes out.

5) Basically all rare things that are in the game now will be next to worthless n chapter 2, so the only wise thing to do is to stock up on rubies and sapphires.

Right now I am just thinking of the huge grind fest ahead when chapter 2 comes out and everyone decides to start a new assasin character or something.

And what about running? Oh I can just see it now in ascalon now, "running to chapter 2 for 1 million gold per head, prepaid!" and considering the runner will have to create, ascend, and cap charge for a runner for each run before throwing that char away, perhaps they'd be perfectly justified to do just that!

And whatever happened to ANet's promise on how players can still continue to play competitively? If a newbie chap 1 guild initiates GvG and get matched with a guild full of level 40s it will so mow over them it is not even funny.

Are these rumours substantiated? I'd hate to buy chapter 2 if it means I'd never be able to play chapter 1 content again.

Ultimate Warrior · Dec 30, 2005, 08:47 AM // 08:47

I really doubt that some of those rumors are true.

Juicey Shake · Dec 30, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52

as someone from my guild said to me when I started chatting it up about rumors, he said to me:

'believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.'

I have no idea where it came from, but I thouht you should read that line.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Dec 30, 2005, 08:55 AM // 08:55

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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake

as someone from my guild said to me when I started chatting it up about rumors, he said to me:

'believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.'

I have no idea where it came from, but I thouht you should read that line.

thats actually a quote from a marvin gaye song, but don't worry you will find out when chapter two comes and I heavily doubt the max level will be raised. Anyway give Anet credit they know what they are doing.

-Loki- · Dec 30, 2005, 08:56 AM // 08:56

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Originally Posted by generik

1) Your character will be moved to the new world in a way akin to presear and postsear, which means once you've done that you will never be able to return to chapter 1 again.

No. They have repeatedly said you can continue to play with people who have only chapter 1 after you buy chapter 2. False.

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Originally Posted by generik

2) The next maximum character level is 40.

Official reply from Alex Weekes:

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes at GWOnline

I've played several pen'n'paper RPG's that do not have levels, including one with only very small amounts of statistical progression. Role-playing makes an RPG, not numbers, and it is this side of the game that we feel is more important. We'll improve the gameplay rather than tinkering with arbitrary numbers. Simple as that.

It's not happening. False.

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Originally Posted by generik

3) Max damage weapons in chapter 1 will not be max damage in chapter 2.

Yes, they will. There will be new weapons and weapons types, but max damage fore current weapons will remain. False.

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Originally Posted by generik

4) All those 1337 people who bought FoW armor will be walking around like fools when chapter 2 comes out.

Well, depends how you look at it. There will be new armour in chapter 2. Stats will be different, not better. Just depends if you think Fissure armour looks better still.

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Originally Posted by generik

5) Basically all rare things that are in the game now will be next to worthless n chapter 2, so the only wise thing to do is to stock up on rubies and sapphires.

Unused crafting materials will be used in chapter 2, but I doubt alot of the common crafting materials will be useless. Tanned hide, cloth, etc, will still probably be very common for new armours.

Alex Weekes · Dec 30, 2005, 08:59 AM // 08:59

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Originally Posted by generik

1) Your character will be moved to the new world in a way akin to presear and postsear, which means once you've done that you will never be able to return to chapter 1 again.

2) The next maximum character level is 40.

3) Max damage weapons in chapter 1 will not be max damage in chapter 2.

4) All those 1337 people who bought FoW armor will be walking around like fools when chapter 2 comes out.

5) Basically all rare things that are in the game now will be next to worthless n chapter 2, so the only wise thing to do is to stock up on rubies and sapphires.

DOn't know where you heard those rumours, but they weren't even close to being from official sources

. In order:

1) We haven't made any definitive statements on how C1 and C2 interactivity will occur with either existing or new characters. However, those who have both C1 and C2 will find that their characters will have access to content from both.

2) Absolutely false. We have no current plans to raise the level cap.

3) Also absolutely false. We've stated many times that players who do not buy C2 but have C1 will not be placed at a disadvantage in this way.

4) FoW armour is a visual upgrade only. There will be new armours in C2, and it will be the individual players own tastes and decisions that determine how they view the FoW armour following release.

5) Spotted the trend?

My simple advise is to ignore rumours and keep your eyes on the official website and other reputable sources (eg previews, interviews, magazine articles etc) in the coming months.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Dec 30, 2005, 09:00 AM // 09:00

I would have to agree with Loki here because we do know a lot about chapter two for what information we have, but I believe Loki is right on all counts. And Alex Weekes himself is replying to this thread now so we will have an answer.

Edit: dang he beat me to it

generik · Dec 30, 2005, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Oh good, because to be quite honest I am currently quite happy with the way things are

So I am really not looking forward to another "oh no! gotta grind!" fest 6 months down the road... it's just so great to be able to sit down, not think about having to attain "max level" and "max armor at the end of C2" and just enjoy the game

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 30, 2005, 12:11 PM // 12:11

My own thoughts on item one is that to prevent people with millions in the bank sweeping into chapter 2 and buying every rare item in sight and thus scewing the economy. Chapter 2 currency will only buy stuff in ch2 and ch 1 gold for ch1 stuff.

I.e if ch 2 is set in Cantha then Cantha will use it's own currency. Just like US dollars and British pounds. You may be able to exchange a certain amount into Canthan gold when you first install but to allow am influx of millionaires into the game on day one would wreck it for all the new players..

chippxero · Dec 30, 2005, 12:18 PM // 12:18

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Originally Posted by generik

And whatever happened to ANet's promise on how players can still continue to play competitively? If a newbie chap 1 guild initiates GvG and get matched with a guild full of level 40s it will so mow over them it is not even funny.

Wow you didn't bother with jumping you leapt in a cannon and fired yourself right over that gun.

Why are you listening to rumours? it's so pointless.

Anet haven't done anything wrong and ^ you seem to be taking it as fact, so many people do that on here and i wish mods would just close it because it just generates a thread full of other rumours or people getting all upset over something they don't even know is true.

Where did you get this "information"?

Oh i heard today "you can get a penguin as a pet in chapter 2, you have to throw fish at the enemy and he dives at them"

EDIT: ops should have read the rest of the thread, Good Job NCSoft guy

The Herbalizer · Dec 30, 2005, 12:57 PM // 12:57

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I.e if ch 2 is set in Cantha then Cantha will use it's own currency. Just like US dollars and British pounds. You may be able to exchange a certain amount into Canthan gold when you first install but to allow am influx of millionaires into the game on day one would wreck it for all the new players..

I think that would be a shame. If people have earned their gold then why should they not be able to spend it. I also dont think they will rush into buying every new gold weapon they see as they did not make their money from being foolish. I am sure any new perfect weapons will be vastly overpriced when found and in time would drastically fall in price.

And anyway limiting the amount you can transfer wont work as you could transfer say ectos instead and then sell for x amount giving you the new currency.

Racthoh · Dec 30, 2005, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

1) We haven't made any definitive statements on how C1 and C2 interactivity will occur with either existing or new characters. However, those who have both C1 and C2 will find that their characters will have access to content from both.

2) Absolutely false. We have no current plans to raise the level cap.

3) Also absolutely false. We've stated many times that players who do not buy C2 but have C1 will not be placed at a disadvantage in this way.

4) FoW armour is a visual upgrade only. There will be new armours in C2, and it will be the individual players own tastes and decisions that determine how they view the FoW armour following release.

5) Spotted the trend?

So in a nutshell... I'll be paying more money to only visually enhance my character because in order to maintain the balance between chapter 1 and chapter 2 nothing can be done?

New content... reward exp that can be gained in chapter 1 areas quite easily. New skills *must* be able to be purchased in chapter 1 areas since as you said those without chapter 2 will not be at any disadvantage. Any quest rewards could just be farmed by those in chapter 2 and sold to those without it as is my understanding about maintaining the balance.

New challenge, new experiences... same rewards?

Prehaps I'm looking at this the wrong way, but that's the way you're coming off to me.

The Herbalizer · Dec 30, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

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So in a nutshell... I'll be paying more money to only visually enhance my character because in order to maintain the balance between chapter 1 and chapter 2 nothing can be done?

New content... reward exp that can be gained in chapter 1 areas quite easily. New skills *must* be able to be purchased in chapter 1 areas since as you said those without chapter 2 will not be at any disadvantage. Any quest rewards could just be farmed by those in chapter 2 and sold to those without it as is my understanding about maintaining the balance.

New challenge, new experiences... same rewards?

Prehaps I'm looking at this the wrong way, but that's the way you're coming off to me.

I am sure they have made away to get around this problem. Take the assassin class for example pvp a guild with chapter 1 players would be at a disadvantage to chapter 2 players with their 2 new characters. Anet must have come up with a way to sort this problem out.

chippxero · Dec 30, 2005, 01:41 PM // 13:41

I'm sorry but if your in an active guild and your members choose not to get chapter 2 thats just crazy.

Maybe there will be a filter so that teams with C2 characters cn never fight a tema with only C1 characters.

I don't see many people not buyng C2 if they are currently active in game, it's the cheapest PC game on release and you get hundreds of hours out of it.

Ado · Dec 30, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

I think that about 90% if the current GW players, if not more, will buy chapter 2

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 30, 2005, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Re: the skills. I suspect new skills will be added to existing classes to counter the new ones. E.g detect stealth for Assasins etc.

As for smuggling stuff across the border I suspect items like ecto will be illegal to transport from one place to the other..

Cronos Khan · Dec 30, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Ado

I think that about 90% if the current GW players, if not more, will buy chapter 2

I think its safe to say that GW has a huge fanbase, so 95% will grab chapter 2 and the rest will do something..

Old Dood · Dec 30, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

My simple advise is to ignore rumours and keep your eyes on the official website and other reputable sources (eg previews, interviews, magazine articles etc) in the coming months.

OR!! You could cut to the chase and simply tell us now....hehehehe

Ellix Cantero · Dec 30, 2005, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Re: the skills. I suspect new skills will be added to existing classes to counter the new ones. E.g detect stealth for Assasins etc.

As for smuggling stuff across the border I suspect items like ecto will be illegal to transport from one place to the other..

If the assassins have stealth skills at all I'd wager they won't be much akin to what you see in that 'other' game. They'll probably just gain a smaller aggro radius for pve and not be shown on the minimap in pvp, but still perfectly visible if you're looking in their direction.

As for Tyria->Cantha, I expect a new ship to pop up in LA (or maybe Droknars/Port Sledge) where you simply go talk to the captain to get transported to the Ch 2 lands. Similar to the captain who takes you to the guild halls currently.

Dalnor Ironhelm · Dec 30, 2005, 02:04 PM // 14:04

This may sound totally inane and immature to you all, as you can see I am quite new to GW, however, I purchased Ch1 partly because it came highly recommended by a friend, we now are in the same guild and play together. However, another reason I got it was that I was told in Ch2 a person could select a different race than "human" I have RPGd for close to fifteen years and have an affinity for Dwarves. I misunderstood the term "chapter". I thought it was part of a story line, part of the roleplaying and thought "chapter 2" would be playable in the game I bought...........as far as I can tell that isn't the case, as my character has reached only level 16, only gotten to Lion's Arch last night and of course hasn't ascended, so as far as I can tell I cannot create a Dwarven character.....I guess until Ch2 release.

Is this true? If so I will DEFINITELY purchase it and play. Pleas educate me.